Burial at St. Mary's, Haddington, E.L.

The burial register of St. Mary's Haddington has the following entry

JAMES FORSYTH was buried on 1st September 1842.
No age or occupation is given. He died of old age and was resident in Nungate.

[reference 3.17 (i.e. vol 3 page 17) entry 45 (ID 328)].
Searched by E. Collins, April, 2011

Re: Helen Scott Forsyth's death in 1860
Note from Mr. Collins: "The Burial Register for Haddington parish from 1858 (part) to around 1878 was lost in a fire, so is no longer available to look at. It is probable that she would have had an entry around 1860 in that Haddington burial register. Her Death Certificate would give her date of death. For a few years after 1855 they also gave where the person was buried, but I think that this stopped around 1861."

Burials at St. Mary's, Haddington, E.L.

T 99 [Information from E. Collins] [# 1834]

(Very tall upright grey obelisk gravestone with a small pointed top. Also on this top piece on the front is a dove bird. The gravestone has an obelisk, and two square bases, which rest on stone. The gravestone is near to a path.)
(obelisk – front)
[garland wreath]

Sacred
To the Memory of
JOHN COCHRANE
Dyer Haddington
Who died 20th August 1860
Aged 73.
His daughter
MARION
Who died 1st March 1835
Aged 4.
His son
THOMAS
Who died 15th Sep. 1868
Aged 27.
Also his wife
MARION FORSYTH
Died 27th February 1877
Aged 73 years.

# MARION COCHRANE (COCHREN), aged 6 years, was buried 5th March 1834, (gravestone gives 1835 and is probably not correct as the register is in correct date order with 1834 given). She died of Measles (Messels) and her residence was Haddington (Haddn). Reference 2.134 (i.e. vol 2 page 134) entry 32 (ID 4953). [She was thus a Child].

John Forsyth and Isabella Sinclair

I do not know how or if these Forsyths were related to our Forsyths of Penicuik, Mid-Lothian. It is possible that this man's father, John Sr., was a brother to our James Forsyth. The John Forsyth of the West Calder census is not proven to be the father of John of Penicuik.

1841 Census for West Calder, Mid-Lothian, Briechmill

FORSYTH, Alexr, 25, Farmer, b. Outside Census County
FORSYTH, Christian, 25, b. Outside Census County
FORSYTH, John, 60, b. Outside Census County
FORSYTH, Jean, 50, Outside Census County
FORSYTH, Alexr (Jnr), 9, Outside Census County
MATTHEWS, Elisabeth, 35, Female Servant, b. Midlothian

John Forsyth and Isabella Sinclair, daughter of James Sinclair and Martha Hartley of Penicuik, were married September 17 1818 in Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh (IGI). The 1841 census states that John was not born in Mid-lothian, but Isabella was.

Their first two known children were Martha (1821) and John 1823) baptised in Penicuik.

John Forsyth, Labourer in Penicuik and Isobel Sinclair his spouse had a child born 18 April 1821, baptised 29th named Martha - Witnesses John Forsyth, Sr. and Thomas Sinclair

John Forsyth, Labourer in Penicuik and Isobel Sinclair his spouse had a child born 15 Septmeber 1823, baptised 28th named John - Witnesses: Thomas Sinclair Thomas Muir

The above records are extracts from Penicuik Parish Registers

The 40 year old John Forsyth in the 1841 census who is married to Isabella Sinclair is probably the son of a John Forsyth, substantiated by the 1821 baptism of a child named Martha of John and his wife, Isabel Sinclair when one of the witnesses is a John Forsyth, Senior. Note that there is a 15 year old John Forsyth, an apprentice, living with Laings in 1841. He is probably a son of John and Isabella who was baptised in 1823 (above).

1841 Census - Penicuik -Midlothian Address: -
FORSYTH, John, M, 40, Ag. Lab, b. Outside County
FORSYTH, Isabella (Sinclair), F, 40, b.Midlothian
FORSYTH, Isabella, F, 15, Paper Mill, b. Midlothian
FORSYTH, Jane, F, 10, Paper Mill, b. Midlothian

1841 Census Place: Penicuik -Midlothian Address: Silver Burn Smithy
LAING, Andrew, M, 55, Wright J&M, b. Outside County
LAING, Jean, F, 55, b. Outside County (1841)
LAING, John, M, 23, Wright Journeyman, b. Midlothian
LAING, Elizabeth, F, 19, b. Midlothian
LAING, George, M, 12, b. Midlothian
STODDART, Robert, M, 20, Wright Journeyman, b. Outside County
THOMSON, James, M, 15, Wright Journeyman, b. Outside County
WHITE, Adam, M, 20,Wright Apprentice, b. Midlothian
FORSYTH, John, M, 15, Wright Apprentice, b. Midlothian
BAILEY, George, M, 15, Agr. Labourer, b. Midlothian
HISLOP, Margaret, F, 15, Servant, b. Midlothian *

1851 Census St Cuthbert's -Midlothian Civil Parish: St Cuthberts
Address: 2 St James's Place

FORSYTH, John, Head, 27, Journeyman Joiner, Born-Penicuik
FORSYTH, Robetina, Wife, 22, born- Edinburgh
FORSYTH, Elisabeth, Dau, 2, born- Edinburgh
FORSYTH, Isabella, Dau, 3w, born- Edinburgh
SHEARER, James, Lodger, 40, Trunk Umbrella Maker, b.Edinburgh
PEARSON, Hugh,Lodger, 23, Grocer's Assistant Shetland - Delting

Marriages of Children of John & Isabella Forsyth:
Isabella Forsyth = James Whyte, 14 Dec 1851 Penicuik
Jane Forsyth = Walter Easton 20 Feb 1857 Penicuik